please post a picture and the bios settings... 113 watt total is great
I'll post a picture of the miner running with Wattman next to it and i'll take picture of the meter.
I'm not going to share anything as i promised certain people that i would stop sharing things for free.
neither am i selling anything (just to be clear..)
wait , certain people don't want you to share with the community because they are charging for their work and feel you are undercutting them wow thats sad.
I assume its thoseWolf and Jstepanop the two folks who like to post their awesome pictures of their magic rigs and refuse to share anything shame on you guys.
Personally im proud to say I've never charged anyone for help even through the Alchemist miner , days where i spent alot of my personal time and money shipping hardware back and forth between developers and testing and helping facilitate fixes to various pieces of Tech.
@Heliox your great work will be missed. I just wanted to say I appreciate all your hard work. Now if we take a look at what heliox has provided and done in the past. It is not easy nor hard to figure out what to do next. It can be done with a little homework. I understand that not sharing a customized rom with the community is perceived in a bad way. I look at it this way, if i spent thousands of dollars on mining equipment, 100's of hours working on my rigs, tweaking, customizing roms, and I was kind enough to share my roms with the community. Doesn't that speak highly of my character. The downside is, a newbie who has not put in the work can come along plug in my rom and start mining, therefore increasing the difficulty. Would I not be shooting myself in the foot? Am I being selfish? I don't think Heliox is being selfish. He has been kind enough to show us how to fish and can no longer give us a fish. We must now fish for ourselves. I'm sure if we run into any problems, Heliox would only be a pm away to help guide us.
@Heliox your great work will be missed. I just wanted to say I appreciate all your hard work. Now if we take a look at what heliox has provided and done in the past. It is not easy nor hard to figure out what to do next. It can be done with a little homework. I understand that not sharing a customized rom with the community is perceived in a bad way. I look at it this way, if i spent thousands of dollars on mining equipment, 100's of hours working on my rigs, tweaking, customizing roms, and I was kind enough to share my roms with the community. Doesn't that speak highly of my character. The downside is, a newbie who has not put in the work can come along plug in my rom and start mining, therefore increasing the difficulty. Would I not be shooting myself in the foot? Am I being selfish? I don't think Heliox is being selfish. He has been kind enough to show us how to fish and can no longer give us a fish. We must now fish for ourselves. I'm sure if we run into any problems, Heliox would only be a pm away to help guide us.
You did not read my post fully I was not blaming @Heliox he has been nothting but above board first on helping folks with the nanos and recently with the 480s.
Its the others like @Wolf and @jstefanop who are pressuring the people helping others to stop helping the so called newbs.
I could spend a few days and play with a bunch of cards and figure out the best setting for all my diffrrnt cards but the whole point of this community is to help each other not to hoard information.
Heck I brought a lot of people from the LTC gear fissco and the LTC gear forums into the etheric world way back oct nov last year when they asked me what I was mining but maybe its because I'm not a Selfish SOB like some of the folks here, its funny how they really feel that them hoarding information/bioses/roms is really going to slow the ever increasing hash rate or make more cards available to them its laughable.
People forget how big the world is, hash rate will grow regardless unless something else becomes more profitable nuff said
@Marvell9 calm down. I'm the war vet here, I should be the one losing my cool. Good thing I am on my meds. First of all I did read your whole post and yes you did not blame Heliox. Did you read my whole post? I don't know how you took it. I was simply thanking Heliox and trying to see it from his point of view. He stated that he will no longer share his roms nor will he post any of them for sale. So he made a promise to some friends that are close to him. That is his decision and we must respect it. To understand it we must try to understand what others are probably thinking. They are probably thinking, without heliox roms to help out others, their rigs would not be so efficient. Some may give up when then find that it would not be profitable or in their best interest to start mining. His decision is not about me nor you.
Now lets be real here. The diff has risen a lot in the past few weeks. A lot of new miners are in it for the profit. A heliox rom would make it so much easier for someone to jump right in. Plug and Play. It just like the gold rush. I can see how that would upset others. Each man is their own man. Each man makes their own decision.
I'm in it because it is something that I can do at home. It is something that challenges me and takes my mind off all the other crazy thoughts flowing through my head. The money, etc does not matter to me. I am not rich by any means. I just know that money comes and goes. If you work hard, adapt to survive.
Now heliox has taught us a lot. How to mod roms. He himself had to learn it from somewhere. That information is readily available online. If he can do it, everyone can do it. Therefore I am not under the impression that with heliox no longer sharing his knowledge, that it will slow the diff nor make more gpu readily available. There would just be no more freebies. Everyone will have to do their own homework. So there is no reason to get mad at anyone for any reason. No need to point fingers and say its his or his fault.
My last note. It is a huge world. I have been all around it serving my country. I can say that this world is backwards. It is human nature to preserve one's self interest before others.
I just received 6 x PowerColor RX480 Red Devil 8GB cards. I'll follow the tuning guide that @Madpacket suggested above (thanks!) but before I start, which version of the driver should I be using?
Maybe I'm shooting myself in the foot, but here it goes.
The ethereum community has ways to go, there is space for all (every single person in the world). The community was and keeps growing by noobs (that's its strength) and they are learning and some are passing that knowledge along while others are profiting from it also (there are wolfs out there), but without the whole, without the noobs without the know how, ethereum would not be what it is or what it could become some day, right now is about getting the most MH/s — sure but when it flips (hardware software constant battles) it will not be about that, instead the value will be on the ideas that will rupture the way we do things, the way we buy things the way we vote.... you know the song if you are mining.
If you want to help people optimize their rigs and waste less electricity (for the well being of humanity), make more money (for the well being of their families) and contribute to the community (for the well being of ethereum), you will be paid in ways you could not have imagined, on the other hand if you do the opposite you will get rewarded what you sow... but again that is your choice.
There is a % of people who can pay for more rigs in order to increase MH/s, and probably don't even care to change their cards because they don't have the depth of knowledge to do it (I'm one of those), but see what the possibilities of Ethereum are and feel that we can change the world by harnessing and propagating the tech. I'm happy and thankful to be able to tap into this community.
I will also learn what I need to learn and help others when I can.
You know, I've worked in IT my whole life and just recently got into mining. As I pay 0.23cts/kWh over here, optimizing my cards/rigs is of utmost importance. But with my 8-5 job, commute, 1 year old kid and house to take care of, I just don't have 2 hours a day to spend testing bios mods. So in a way I am a n00b, but I would, probably like many others, appreciate the sharing rather than the "oh look what I can do but you can't". So a big thanks to those who share their knowledge/roms!
A newbie over here I plan on building my first rig and I am looking into the options. With the 480 and the 470 being the best options right now, I cant decide which one is better.
I can see many members undervolting the 470 and getting like 27-29 hash rates. How stable are the cards at with these settings? If I get a 470, how much stable hash rate can I expect and what would be the power useage? Is the 480 any better, or worth getting over the 470?
How stable are the cards at with these settings? If I get a 470, how much stable hash rate can I expect and what would be the power useage
Stable RX470 (minimum) : 26.5 mh/s at about 120W from the wall per card. Buy the cheapest card for which you can find a full guide on tweaking it to the max. Also, please go through the forums, use the search feature, before making new posts.
I keep seeing people saying the 480s are better but I disagree unless you can get a 480 for near the same price as a 470.
Reference 470 4G gives me 28.2mh/s, 122W/card at the wall, 56C card temp, and a cost of $170/card.
A 480 8GB can get 31mh/s but it costs $250. You're paying 47% more cash for 10% more performance. That means it's going to take longer to reach ROI with a 480. Based on that you would be better off buying 18 470s instead of 12 480s even with the added cost of a 3rd mobo/cpu/ram/ssd/psu ($300). If you can find a good 480 for less than $190 then go for it, otherwise get more 470s.
I have seen 480 4gb models for under 200 but I'm not sure those will get you in the 31-32mh/s range. I also don't have the most up to date power usage at the wall for 480s at 31mh/s but I saw 115W for 29.5mh/s so it should be quite a bit higher at 31mh/s. The only other argument for 480s is you might get a little more money for your card when you sell it.
I keep seeing people saying the 480s are better but I disagree unless you can get a 480 for near the same price as a 470.
Reference 470 4G gives me 28.2mh/s, 122W/card at the wall, 56C card temp, and a cost of $170/card.
A 480 8GB can get 31mh/s but it costs $250. You're paying 47% more cash for 10% more performance. That means it's going to take longer to reach ROI with a 480. Based on that you would be better off buying 18 470s instead of 12 480s even with the added cost of a 3rd mobo/cpu/ram/ssd/psu ($300). If you can find a good 480 for less than $190 then go for it, otherwise get more 470s.
I have seen 480 4gb models for under 200 but I'm not sure those will get you in the 31-32mh/s range. I also don't have the most up to date power usage at the wall for 480s at 31mh/s but I saw 115W for 29.5mh/s so it should be quite a bit higher at 31mh/s. The only other argument for 480s is you might get a little more money for your card when you sell it.
Can you share your settings for the 28.2 numbers and advise what miner you were using and if it was Claymore's if you were running in dual mining mode?
cpu 1100/900mV MEM 2000/900mV 1500 memory straps 70% fan (3800 rpm on reference cards) Phase gain 000000
windows 10 anniversary crimson 16.9.2 or higher (on latest now and same results) claymore 7.2b or 7.3 perform equally (not in dual mining mode)
I also used the same settings with ZEC except I had to reduce memory clock to 1900 which resulted in 42 sol/s. Never tried 1950 with ZEC so it might work also.
I am tempted to build a six card 470 ref 4GB rig. Can someone confirm that the 4GB version have a mem clock limit at 1750Mhz ? If so, is there any way to fix that with a bios mod ?
Been told that mem clock limit will be fix in the next driver update.
Yes they do have this mem clock limit built into the bios. You can overclock them some with a bios mod but the stability depends on what memory the manufacturer chose. I personally like all the RX 470 and 480 series cards and highly recommend buying any of these models as long as you can get them on sale. Brand is less important than getting a good deal. Stay away from the RX 460's. Those things are not very diverse and with the low core count they are not very diverse and only good for a few mining algo's.
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Test 4:
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System:
SAPPHIRE NITRO RADEON RX 470 8G
ASRock H61Pro BTC Mainboard LGA 1155
Intel Celeron G1610, 2x 2,6GHz
4 GB RAM
Super Flower Leadex 80 Plus Platinum 8Pack Edt. Netzteil - 2000 Watt
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27 mhs / 200 Watt (whole System) - Change Timing from 1750 -> 2000
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test2.JPG
now i will test reduce more the mV
lg MArtin
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System:
SAPPHIRE NITRO RADEON RX 470 8G
ASRock H61Pro BTC Mainboard LGA 1155
Intel Celeron G1610, 2x 2,6GHz
4 GB RAM
Super Flower Leadex 80 Plus Platinum 8Pack Edt. Netzteil - 2000 Watt
Ubuntu 1604
Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v6.2
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I measure the power consumption with a calibrated electricity Watt meter
idel Modus Windows 70 watt , Ubuntu 63 Watt
Test 1. Normal Standard BIOS
24 mhs / 200 Watt (Ganzes System)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...s/Standard.JPG
Test 2. OC Standard BIOS
24 mhs / 240 Watt (Ganzes System)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...enshots/OC.JPG
Test 3. verschiedene Werte mit Polaris Editor geändert
24 mhs / 190 Watt (Ganzes System)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...hots/Test1.JPG
Test 4:
27 mhs / 200 Watt (total System) - Change Timing from 1750 -> 2000
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test2.JPG
Test 5:
27 mhs / 195 Watt (total System) - Change to 850 mV
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test3.JPG
Test 6:
27 mhs / 195 Watt (total System) - Change to 800 mV
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test4.JPG
Test 7:
24 mhs / 190 Watt (total System)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test6.JPG
Test 8:
27 mhs / 195 Watt (total System)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test7.JPG
Test 9:
24-27 mhs / 190 Watt - Instabil MHS Rate (total System)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test8.JPG
Test 10:
26 mhs / 200 Watt (total System)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test9.JPG
Test 11:
20-28 mhs / 195 Watt(total System) - Instabil MHS Rate (total System)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test10.JPG
Test 12:
20-25 mhs / 190 Watt (total System)- Instabil MHS Rate(total System)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test11.JPG
Test 13:
20-28 mhs / 190 Watt(total System) - Instabil MHS Rate(total System)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test12.JPG
Test 14:
20-28 mhs / 190 Watt(total System) - Instabil MHS Rate(total System)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test13.JPG
Test 15:
20-28 mhs / 195 Watt (total System)- Instabil MHS Rate(total System)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test14.JPG
Test 16:
24-28 mhs / 195 Watt (total System)- Instabil MHS Rate(total System)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test15.JPG
Test 17:
27,8 mhs / 195 WatT (total System)- almost stable
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test16.JPG
Test 18
16 mhs / 174 Watt (total System)- TIming von 1650
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test17.JPG
Test 19
27.6 mhs / 192 Watt(total System) almost stable
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test18.JPG
Test 20
27.6 mhs / 192 Watt(total System) almost stable
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test19.JPG
Test 21
27.6 mhs / 195 Watt Stabil -> ROM 23
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test21.JPG
Test 22
27.4 mhs / 195 Watt Stabil
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test22.JPG
Test 23
27.4 mhs / 195 Watt Stabil
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test23.JPG
Test 24
27.4 mhs / 195 Watt Stabil
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test24.JPG
Test 25
27.4 mhs / 195 Watt Stabil
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test25.JPG
Test 26
27.4 mhs / 195 Watt Stabil
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test26.JPG
Test 27
no screen
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test27.JPG
Test 28
no screen
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test28.JPG
Test 29
27.4 mhs / 195 Watt - long test not stabil
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test29.JPG
Test 30 - ROM von uray
24-30 MHS - not stabil
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46174172/Screenshots/Test30.JPG
Got no pictures for proof, but if you want , i can take some
MSI 470 8GB, 26.5Mh consuming 70watt, system is around 40 watt, measured from the wall it's a total of 113watt to be exact.
I'm not going to share anything as i promised certain people that i would stop sharing things for free.
neither am i selling anything (just to be clear..)
Basically same thing.
I assume its thoseWolf and Jstepanop the two folks who like to post their awesome pictures of their magic rigs and refuse to share anything shame on you guys.
Personally im proud to say I've never charged anyone for help even through the Alchemist miner , days where i spent alot of my personal time and money shipping hardware back and forth between developers and testing and helping facilitate fixes to various pieces of Tech.
Its the others like @Wolf and @jstefanop who are pressuring the people helping others to stop helping the so called newbs.
I could spend a few days and play with a bunch of cards and figure out the best setting for all my diffrrnt cards but the whole point of this community is to help each other not to hoard information.
Heck I brought a lot of people from the LTC gear fissco and the LTC gear forums into the etheric world way back oct nov last year when they asked me what I was mining but maybe its because I'm not a Selfish SOB like some of the folks here, its funny how they really feel that them hoarding information/bioses/roms is really going to slow the ever increasing hash rate or make more cards available to them its laughable.
People forget how big the world is, hash rate will grow regardless unless something else becomes more profitable nuff said
Now lets be real here. The diff has risen a lot in the past few weeks. A lot of new miners are in it for the profit. A heliox rom would make it so much easier for someone to jump right in. Plug and Play. It just like the gold rush. I can see how that would upset others. Each man is their own man. Each man makes their own decision.
I'm in it because it is something that I can do at home. It is something that challenges me and takes my mind off all the other crazy thoughts flowing through my head. The money, etc does not matter to me. I am not rich by any means. I just know that money comes and goes. If you work hard, adapt to survive.
Now heliox has taught us a lot. How to mod roms. He himself had to learn it from somewhere. That information is readily available online. If he can do it, everyone can do it. Therefore I am not under the impression that with heliox no longer sharing his knowledge, that it will slow the diff nor make more gpu readily available. There would just be no more freebies. Everyone will have to do their own homework. So there is no reason to get mad at anyone for any reason. No need to point fingers and say its his or his fault.
My last note. It is a huge world. I have been all around it serving my country. I can say that this world is backwards. It is human nature to preserve one's self interest before others.
Is this also possible with the rx 480 ?
http://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/amd-radeon-rx-400-series/rx-480-rs-8gb-dd-rx-480p8lfb6
Who tested it?
mh/s? - power from wall? - settings?
Frequency -25%
Voltage Max 900mv
Memory 2200MHz
Voltage : 920mv
PowerLimit: -25%
~120 watts per card or 1 card + system = ~180 watts, measured with a kill-a-watt.
Maybe I'm shooting myself in the foot, but here it goes.
The ethereum community has ways to go, there is space for all (every single person in the world). The community was and keeps growing by noobs (that's its strength) and they are learning and some are passing that knowledge along while others are profiting from it also (there are wolfs out there), but without the whole, without the noobs without the know how, ethereum would not be what it is or what it could become some day, right now is about getting the most MH/s — sure but when it flips (hardware software constant battles) it will not be about that, instead the value will be on the ideas that will rupture the way we do things, the way we buy things the way we vote.... you know the song if you are mining.
If you want to help people optimize their rigs and waste less electricity (for the well being of humanity), make more money (for the well being of their families) and contribute to the community (for the well being of ethereum), you will be paid in ways you could not have imagined, on the other hand if you do the opposite you will get rewarded what you sow... but again that is your choice.
There is a % of people who can pay for more rigs in order to increase MH/s, and probably don't even care to change their cards because they don't have the depth of knowledge to do it (I'm one of those), but see what the possibilities of Ethereum are and feel that we can change the world by harnessing and propagating the tech. I'm happy and thankful to be able to tap into this community.
I will also learn what I need to learn and help others when I can.
You know, I've worked in IT my whole life and just recently got into mining. As I pay 0.23cts/kWh over here, optimizing my cards/rigs is of utmost importance. But with my 8-5 job, commute, 1 year old kid and house to take care of, I just don't have 2 hours a day to spend testing bios mods. So in a way I am a n00b, but I would, probably like many others, appreciate the sharing rather than the "oh look what I can do but you can't". So a big thanks to those who share their knowledge/roms!
A newbie over here
I can see many members undervolting the 470 and getting like 27-29 hash rates. How stable are the cards at with these settings? If I get a 470, how much stable hash rate can I expect and what would be the power useage? Is the 480 any better, or worth getting over the 470?
Thanks
Buy the cheapest card for which you can find a full guide on tweaking it to the max.
Also, please go through the forums, use the search feature, before making new posts.
Reference 470 4G gives me 28.2mh/s, 122W/card at the wall, 56C card temp, and a cost of $170/card.
A 480 8GB can get 31mh/s but it costs $250. You're paying 47% more cash for 10% more performance. That means it's going to take longer to reach ROI with a 480. Based on that you would be better off buying 18 470s instead of 12 480s even with the added cost of a 3rd mobo/cpu/ram/ssd/psu ($300). If you can find a good 480 for less than $190 then go for it, otherwise get more 470s.
I have seen 480 4gb models for under 200 but I'm not sure those will get you in the 31-32mh/s range. I also don't have the most up to date power usage at the wall for 480s at 31mh/s but I saw 115W for 29.5mh/s so it should be quite a bit higher at 31mh/s. The only other argument for 480s is you might get a little more money for your card when you sell it.
MEM 2000/900mV 1500 memory straps
70% fan (3800 rpm on reference cards)
Phase gain 000000
windows 10 anniversary
crimson 16.9.2 or higher (on latest now and same results)
claymore 7.2b or 7.3 perform equally (not in dual mining mode)
I also used the same settings with ZEC except I had to reduce memory clock to 1900 which resulted in 42 sol/s. Never tried 1950 with ZEC so it might work also.
(elpida, samsung, hynix, micron)
Is it good for ETH mining?
Thank you!!