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  • ed1ed1 Member Posts: 46
    Yes you are right, the case is designed in a slightly bad way for that bottom card! but believe it or not its running at around 58 degrees so it's not too hot at the moment :)
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  • adasebadaseb Member Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭
    Crazy, how fast are your fans spinning?
  • ethfanethfan Member Posts: 458 ✭✭✭
    Remember that hot air rises. The lowest GPU has to cope only with its own heat. Each higher position has to cope with the heat from below as well.
  • Rich2016Rich2016 Member Posts: 132
    ed1 said:

    2x 380's and 1 x 280 - wall wattage 600w - around 58MH/s





    Iam getting the same hash with 2x 380 4gb and a 270x 2gb both overclocked 380s at 41-43mhs 1050 core and 1500mem 270x 1100 and 1500 16mhs
  • score4funscore4fun Member Posts: 1
    Win 7 x64 / Gigabyte AMD Radeon R9 280X + ASUS AMD Radeon 7870
    min/mean/max: 43108900/43283117/43486912 H/s

    Win 7 x64 / MSI AMD Radeon R9 270X Gaming 2G
    min/mean/max: 17354176/17816444/18169260 H/s
  • GodmasterGodmaster Member Posts: 183
    My config at last !

    -Windows 10
    -crimson 15.12 driver
    -Asus H170 pro gaming
    -4*MSI R9 390X
    -8 Go
    OC msi after burner

    Up to 144 H/s :-)






  • ethmatjazethmatjaz Member Posts: 3
    score4fun said:

    Win 7 x64 / Gigabyte AMD Radeon R9 280X + ASUS AMD Radeon 7870
    min/mean/max: 43108900/43283117/43486912 H/s

    Win 7 x64 / MSI AMD Radeon R9 270X Gaming 2G
    min/mean/max: 17354176/17816444/18169260 H/s

    what drivers do you use on (270x)?
    is it overclocked and how much (270x)?
  • ed1ed1 Member Posts: 46
    adaseb said:

    Crazy, how fast are your fans spinning?

    Fans are all at the Max and I got a Noctua Fan in front of the Gpu's i don't know if you spotted it :-) it's running at 3000 RPM - Plus and to be honest the system is not too load cant here it from the basement :smile:
  • vegas1vegas1 Member Posts: 1
    Godmaster said:

    My config at last !

    -Windows 10
    -crimson 15.12 driver
    -Asus H170 pro gaming
    -4*MSI R9 390X
    -8 Go
    OC msi after burner

    Up to 144 H/s :-)






    Godmaster said:

    My config at last !

    -Windows 10
    -crimson 15.12 driver
    -Asus H170 pro gaming
    -4*MSI R9 390X
    -8 Go
    OC msi after burner

    Up to 144 H/s :-)






    I see you don't have the option to undervolt them ?
    Msi afterburner is not appearing the voltage control in your picture,, it's strange as you have msi cards ...
    So you get around 33.5mhz / card
    Why someone previous said 40mhz / card with gigabyte 390x ?
  • DPS50DPS50 Member Posts: 79

    win 7 crimson 15.12 R9 390 (Gigabyte G1 8gb)
    40Mh/s @dwarfpool
    OC: 1155core (+12.6% oc)/1500mem, -5% power setting using AMD tool

    Temp: 83 - plan to get a water block for this.

    ethminer settings: 16384/256

    From dwarfpool stats:
    Calc Hashrate(MHs) Sent Hashrate(MHs)
    43.39 40.33

    win 7 crimson 15.12 R9 390 (Gigabyte G1 8gb)
    40Mh/s @dwarfpool
    OC: 1155core (+12.6% oc)/1500mem, -5% power setting using AMD tool

    Temp: 83 - plan to get a water block for this.

    ethminer settings: 16384/256

    From dwarfpool stats:
    Calc Hashrate(MHs) Sent Hashrate(MHs)
    43.39 40.33

    Are you promoting Gigabyte or what ?
    Your hashrate can't be real !
    check again and confirm please
  • disturbiliciousdisturbilicious CanadaMember Posts: 24
    edited April 2016
    DPS50 said:

    Are you promoting Gigabyte or what ?
    Your hashrate can't be real !
    check again and confirm please

    Dwarfpool, and probably other pools as well, don't show the correct hashrate all the time. They sometimes report 50%-100% higher hashrates than normal. So, a single snapshot from Dwarfpool isn't really accurate, and @highwalker may simply be misunderstanding the readings.
  • robinminerrobinminer ParisMember Posts: 38
    trotol said:

    just modification of miner/catalyst/bat-file.
    Do you mean a flashing the bios? Of course, the cards are flashed with stilt bios.

    Hey... do you have the link for Stilt bios. I have searched all over the internet. But most of the links to download are dead.
  • HelioxHeliox Member, Moderator Posts: 634 mod
    DPS50 said:

    win 7 crimson 15.12 R9 390 (Gigabyte G1 8gb)
    40Mh/s @dwarfpool
    OC: 1155core (+12.6% oc)/1500mem, -5% power setting using AMD tool

    Temp: 83 - plan to get a water block for this.

    ethminer settings: 16384/256

    From dwarfpool stats:
    Calc Hashrate(MHs) Sent Hashrate(MHs)
    43.39 40.33

    win 7 crimson 15.12 R9 390 (Gigabyte G1 8gb)
    40Mh/s @dwarfpool
    OC: 1155core (+12.6% oc)/1500mem, -5% power setting using AMD tool

    Temp: 83 - plan to get a water block for this.

    ethminer settings: 16384/256

    From dwarfpool stats:
    Calc Hashrate(MHs) Sent Hashrate(MHs)
    43.39 40.33

    Are you promoting Gigabyte or what ?
    Your hashrate can't be real !
    check again and confirm please
    Yeah That's bullshit.

    My 390 NItro does 40Mh as well, but core clock to 1260.

    I have a screenshot of that.
    http://s29.postimg.org/iixxgyo5j/Schermafbeelding_2016_03_21_om_23_13_31.png

    Voila
  • adasebadaseb Member Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭
    Doesnt look like 40Mhs when you take the 20Mhs average. Looks like maybe 32Mhs or so.
  • Dr_House86Dr_House86 Member Posts: 566 ✭✭✭
    With my asus Strix R9 390 with Power max, voltage max and Coreclock 1250 i get 32-34mh/s
  • HelioxHeliox Member, Moderator Posts: 634 mod
    adaseb said:

    Doesnt look like 40Mhs when you take the 20Mhs average. Looks like maybe 32Mhs or so.

    It's 40, believe me, i was playing with global and local worksize, that's why it was fluctuating so much.

    If you know that 1150 gets you to 32-33 easily, than 1260 will get you to 40.
    Common sense....

    But because it's so hard to believe here i'll do a rerun and i'll take another screenshot.

    It's a Sapphire R9 390 Nitro.
  • HelioxHeliox Member, Moderator Posts: 634 mod
    I'll even film it. ;)
  • GenoilGenoil 0xeb9310b185455f863f526dab3d245809f6854b4dMember Posts: 769 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2016
    @Heliox don't bother, that's not 40.

    The hashrate counter of ethminer isn't very sophisticated. When a kernel execution finishes between the "farm-recheck" time (regardless of when that kernel started running), the amount of nonces hashed in that kernel run (== --cl-local-work * --cl-global-work) are added to a total and after the farm-recheck period finishes, it gets divided by farm-recheck and you have your "hash rate". Then the total gets reset. Because you have a relatively large work size and a short recheck, most of the time you have two kernel invocations finish between your recheck period, but sometimes just 1. Looking at the screenshot, you have 23 samples with 18 averaging about 39MH and 5 at about 20.5. That's 18 * 39 + 5 * 20.5 = 804,5 / 23 = 35MH/s. You can verify that by either lowering your global work or (temporarily) increase farm-recheck to like 3000 or so.
  • newkidONdablocknewkidONdablock interwebzMember Posts: 121
    do --cl-local-work --cl-global-work affect hashrate? Im getting 14.5 on my gtx680 and 20.5 on 280x, without the additional settings or clocking, is it worth it to try to modify them?
  • GenoilGenoil 0xeb9310b185455f863f526dab3d245809f6854b4dMember Posts: 769 ✭✭✭
    @newkidONdablock in most cases the defaults are fine. Ramping them up will show higher hashrates but also a less stable one. Local work always needs to be a multiple of 8, in my fork it should be a power of 2. Global work is like "intensity" seen in other miners where 2 ^ intensity ~ global-work. If you increase it above the level where the GPU is saturated, the only effect will be a longer kernel runtime.

    You can sort of compare it to the entrance of a big venue or a festival or something, where each person going in has to go through one of these rotating barrier gates where only person (1 GPU thread, 1 nonce) can pass through at a time. Local work is the amount of gates you place side by side. Global work is the queue in front of each gate. When everybody is inside, your kernel finishes. Of course there are limitations to amount of gates you can place side by side. And there are ideal sizes as well, as people going though the gates appear to be holding hands while they cross the entrance. That's 64 people on AMD (a wavefront) and 32 on CUDA (a warp). So it makes sense to use multiples of 32/64 for local work. Inside the ethash kernel, groups of 8 people (threads) are actively exchanging information during the kernel run, hence the multiples of 8 restriction. I could go on about the real limiting factor here which is register usage, but I don't have a festival gate analogy at hand ;)
  • HelioxHeliox Member, Moderator Posts: 634 mod
    Genoil said:

    @Heliox don't bother, that's not 40.

    The hashrate counter of ethminer isn't very sophisticated. When a kernel execution finishes between the "farm-recheck" time (regardless of when that kernel started running), the amount of nonces hashed in that kernel run (== --cl-local-work * --cl-global-work) are added to a total and after the farm-recheck period finishes, it gets divided by farm-recheck and you have your "hash rate". Then the total gets reset. Because you have a relatively large work size and a short recheck, most of the time you have two kernel invocations finish between your recheck period, but sometimes just 1. Looking at the screenshot, you have 23 samples with 18 averaging about 39MH and 5 at about 20.5. That's 18 * 39 + 5 * 20.5 = 804,5 / 23 = 35MH/s. You can verify that by either lowering your global work or (temporarily) increase farm-recheck to like 3000 or so.

    Well like i said before. This was a test with local work @ 16k and global @ 256. When i lower that to 8192 and 128 it will be stable and around 39. As i said before. There will be no fluctuations whatsoever.

    I took the screenshot at a wrong moment. Again, i will redo it. because most here need to see it with their own eyes to believe it. I would too..

    Thank you for your detailed explanation none the less. Appreciate it!
  • HelioxHeliox Member, Moderator Posts: 634 mod
    Here.

    Core clock 1280, memclock 1500, +100mV Core. As you can see..

    Picture. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_cBBoZ_PTwOa0JXQ0hlZ3BMZjM1bkxQeDFKWV9KakFIMW5z/view?pref=2&pli=1

    What good does it do me if i would lie about it? Yeah.. none.. :)
  • Thresho1dThresho1d Member Posts: 26
    Genoil said:

    @newkidONdablock in most cases the defaults are fine. Ramping them up will show higher hashrates but also a less stable one. Local work always needs to be a multiple of 8, in my fork it should be a power of 2. Global work is like "intensity" seen in other miners where 2 ^ intensity ~ global-work. If you increase it above the level where the GPU is saturated, the only effect will be a longer kernel runtime.

    You can sort of compare it to the entrance of a big venue or a festival or something, where each person going in has to go through one of these rotating barrier gates where only person (1 GPU thread, 1 nonce) can pass through at a time. Local work is the amount of gates you place side by side. Global work is the queue in front of each gate. When everybody is inside, your kernel finishes. Of course there are limitations to amount of gates you can place side by side. And there are ideal sizes as well, as people going though the gates appear to be holding hands while they cross the entrance. That's 64 people on AMD (a wavefront) and 32 on CUDA (a warp). So it makes sense to use multiples of 32/64 for local work. Inside the ethash kernel, groups of 8 people (threads) are actively exchanging information during the kernel run, hence the multiples of 8 restriction. I could go on about the real limiting factor here which is register usage, but I don't have a festival gate analogy at hand ;)

    I get a whole extra MH/s with VERY stable results on 280x using --cl-local-work 64 --cl-global-work 12288 --farm-recheck 200 versus default mining.
  • minerkinminerkin Member Posts: 41
    When I use --cl-global-work 16384, my cards crash like crazy. Even with default clock and relatively high voltage 1000/1500 @ 1.093v for 280x. 8192 gives invalid shares but can run the cards forever.

    I would love to try --cl-local-work 64 --cl-global-work 12288
  • adasebadaseb Member Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭
    Heliox said:

    adaseb said:

    Doesnt look like 40Mhs when you take the 20Mhs average. Looks like maybe 32Mhs or so.

    It's 40, believe me, i was playing with global and local worksize, that's why it was fluctuating so much.

    If you know that 1150 gets you to 32-33 easily, than 1260 will get you to 40.
    Common sense....

    But because it's so hard to believe here i'll do a rerun and i'll take another screenshot.

    It's a Sapphire R9 390 Nitro.
    Set your --farm-refresh to 3000 and take another photo for all of us, and it won't be 40MHs.
  • bbcoinbbcoin Member Posts: 377 ✭✭✭
    Heliox said:

    Here.

    Core clock 1280, memclock 1500, +100mV Core. As you can see..

    Picture. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_cBBoZ_PTwOa0JXQ0hlZ3BMZjM1bkxQeDFKWV9KakFIMW5z/view?pref=2&pli=1

    What good does it do me if i would lie about it? Yeah.. none.. :)


    41MHS is your peak hash rate. In the other screen it dropped down to 19MHS.
    Your average hash rate would be in the 30's Instead of ethminer look at the average effective hash rate from the pool.
  • hbheinerhbheiner Member Posts: 6
    how to tweak the best for xfx r9 380 4g? and hd7950? cl-local-work? --cl-global-work? and tweaking use afterburner? less energy? more ram or higher gpu?
  • bbcoinbbcoin Member Posts: 377 ✭✭✭
    hbheiner said:

    how to tweak the best for xfx r9 380 4g? and hd7950? cl-local-work? --cl-global-work? and tweaking use afterburner? less energy? more ram or higher gpu?

    Try combinations of cl work first. Then keep ethminer running and play with afterburner.
    Both GPU nad Ram will affect the hash rate. To use less energy you have to underclock and undervolt.
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