I've found that at 75MH, time to block on ethpool is about 5 days. Assuming the reward is 5 ETH, that would be less than ethermine, from which I've been averaging 7 ETH in the same time.... unless I'm still completely misunderstanding the potential payout scheme on ethpool, more than likely...
You are wrong again but i'm tired but better stop telling there is 40% difference in the profit of both pools, you are going to mislead newbies. Just accept, ethpool si better for big miners, ethermined is better for small miners and by better I mean very small percentages (1-2-3%) which on your hashrate is around 10-12 usd per month.
@bluebox At 75 mh time to block on ethpool is ~3.5 days2 and 3 days (closer to 3), NOT 5. Five probably means that miners were offline for some part of of these 5 days. However, i waited ~2 days with 103 mh and got a block and an uncle=8.7 eth, just to show that individual performance varies in the short term due to uncles.
@zorvalth Sorry, I did forget you authored the uncle idea! Of course, I think it was great. I did accomplish your original intent, but with side effects.
@bluebox At 75 mh time to block on ethpool is between 2 and 3 days (closer to 3), NOT 5. Five probably means that miners were offline for some part of of these 5 days. However, i waited ~2 days with 103 mh and got a block and an uncle=8.7 eth, just to show that individual performance varies in the short term due to uncles.
Not sure what math you're doing, but it looks wrong. 75MH/s would take over 3.5 days to get a block on ethpool right now, and diff is increasing fairly rapidly so maybe even longer. You definitely won't be getting a block after 2 days unless you're unbelievably (read: statistically impossible) lucky with shares.
@work I am plugging 75mh here http://ethereum-mining-calculator.com/ you are right about 3.5 days, 2.5-3 was a week ago, now 3.5, wrong approximation on my part. that said, your statement fits exactly what I was saying as well; when difficulty is rising rapidly, ethermine should be choice #1 and when difficulty is stable, then ethpool should provide slightly better ##, in my opinion.
@work I am plugging 75mh here http://ethereum-mining-calculator.com/ you are right about 3.5 days, 2.5-3 was a week ago, now 3.5, wrong approximation on my part. that said, your statement fits exactly what I was saying as well; when difficulty is rising rapidly, ethermine should be choice #1 and when difficulty is stable, then ethpool should provide slightly better ##, in my opinion.
@zorvalth OK, but you cannot just say wrong or right, you need to present a more advanced counterargument, which I am completely open to, accidentally.
@adaseb I think that's already been discussed at length in this thread. The uncle policy on ethpool elevates the credits needed for a block beyond what they would be otherwise. Of course, the difficulty has been increasing substantially in the last couple of days, as well.
@work I am plugging 75mh here http://ethereum-mining-calculator.com/ you are right about 3.5 days, 2.5-3 was a week ago, now 3.5, wrong approximation on my part. that said, your statement fits exactly what I was saying as well; when difficulty is rising rapidly, ethermine should be choice #1 and when difficulty is stable, then ethpool should provide slightly better ##, in my opinion.
I generally agree with this. Not sure what zorvalth is in a huff about. On ethpool, you're effectively mining at the difficulty level when you get paid, plus about 10% lately. If difficulty is rising rapidly (which it is), that means if it takes you X days to find a block, and diff increased 20% in that time, you effectively lost 10% of your potential mining income vs a proportional pool.
Ethpool has gotten bad. A bunch of huge miners recently appeared out of nowhere with 4GHS to 14GHS. It is almost pointless to mine on there now with people who have such high hash rates. Because of them the amount to get paid keeps getting higher and higher really fast because they get to the top really quick and get the block reward while the slower people are gaining points slowly. They only deduct the next highest persons points from them when they get their block so then they already have a huge advantage again with high hashrate giving them more points to start. When I started over a week ago I was told I would get a block in 6 days. I has been about 10 days and it still says I have 10 more hours to go. Some of the miners with big hashrates if you look at their stats it says the have a high hashrate, but shows no shares for work or anything. Something doesn't seem right with Ethpool. After I get my block I will never use either of their sites. I don't trust them.
A hours ago I switch from nanopool to ethpool because I see with my 100mhs here I can get more ETH than in nanopool i check people with my hashes and they are getting around 2,3 ETH per day and in nano I was getting only 1.6 ETH but here I have to wait 4 days to mine a block and recive my payment? So is thats mean in these 4 days I will recive something like 8-9 ETH? To know what to do if stay here or not. I am not 24 at the pool there is the reason why I got last 24h 71mhs
I would leave as fast as you can to a different pool. If not you will regret it. That 4 days they claim will end up being 8 days or more and you will only get 5 Ethereum.
I would leave as fast as you can to a different pool. If not you will regret it. That 4 days they claim will end up being 8 days or more and you will only get 5 Ethereum.
@Aetsen So, you don't think that it has anything to do with the fact that the network difficulty has skyrocketed in the last 2 days? The guy with 14 GH/s has been running on ethpool for weeks. Of course, if you are a smaller miner, and the network difficulty is going up as fast as it is, your estimated time to find a block is going to increase. That *has* to happen. It's going to happen on any pool. That's what increasing difficulty does. Smaller miners should definitely be considering ethermine.org, instead of ethpool, to smooth out the payouts. That's been recommended over and over again by any number of posters.
I have no idea what you peeps are talking about-it is almost bizarre. if you were not there for 24hr, of course your 24hr average rate is lower that what you see on powhash.
@Biodom Sometimes I think they're sitting around drinking beer and smoking bud all day, and then wondering why none of this (obvious stuff) makes sense to them, so they blame it on everything under the sun, other than their brain being jello.
@Biodom Sometimes I think they're sitting around drinking beer and smoking bud all day, and then wondering why none of this (obvious stuff) makes sense to them, so they blame it on everything under the sun, other than their brain being jello.
Man I just love you you are n1 you are same like my father. And well I have small hashrate then I decite to switch to the pool you said ethermine.org everytime when I reach 1eth I will recive it auto. Thats sounds good.
If you actually looked into it maybe you would understand. Instead of making excuses. The miner with 14GH does not even provide any shares. It just gets paid. They are stealing money from people. Eventually people will realize it.
If you actually looked into it maybe you would understand. Instead of making excuses. The miner with 14GH does not even provide any shares. It just gets paid. They are stealing money from people. Eventually people will realize it.
How about stealing money from people? I dont understand you? You mean this pool is getting our eth-s?
If you actually looked into it maybe you would understand. Instead of making excuses. The miner with 14GH does not even provide any shares. It just gets paid. They are stealing money from people. Eventually people will realize it.
What a fucking idiot... pardon my french...
The miner with 14GH/s is using eth-proxy, and the pool doesn't show shares from eth-proxy (clearly stated on the site)... holy, some people.
@Aetsen This is getting embarrassing - for you. You're coming off as a complete and utter fool. You might consider stopping your posts, and maybe just try thinking clearly for a while, gather your wits, as they say. Comtimplation leads to enlightenment. As it stands, it appears your filament is burned out.
If you actually looked into it maybe you would understand. Instead of making excuses. The miner with 14GH does not even provide any shares. It just gets paid. They are stealing money from people. Eventually people will realize it.
I looked in to it, i got an extension which is calculating the ethh based on the payments and based on the hasrate(as the ether calculators). If what you are saying is right big miners should have muvh better rate then the small miners.
Here some shots: Firs column is by calculator, the second is based on the last 24/h payment results
So mister "bright mind" how this happen? Where is the stolen from the big miners?\
For the very very very last time - there is no difference. There is a really small %(1-2-3%) of better proffit for the small miners in ethermine and bigger miners in ethpool but its SMALL - pennies!
If you cant understand the logic of both pools better dont make false statements, you are misleading the newbies!
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You will make 1% more on the newer pool because there are no fees. So maybe $1 extra a day for some.
At 75 mh time to block on ethpool is ~3.5 days
2 and 3 days (closer to 3), NOT 5.Five probably means that miners were offline for some part of of these 5 days.
However, i waited ~2 days with 103 mh and got a block and an uncle=8.7 eth, just to show that individual performance varies in the short term due to uncles.
I am plugging 75mh here
http://ethereum-mining-calculator.com/
you are right about 3.5 days, 2.5-3 was a week ago, now 3.5, wrong approximation on my part.
that said, your statement fits exactly what I was saying as well; when difficulty is rising rapidly, ethermine should be choice #1 and when difficulty is stable, then ethpool should provide slightly better ##, in my opinion.
OK, but you cannot just say wrong or right, you need to present a more advanced counterargument, which I am completely open to, accidentally.
I am not 24 at the pool there is the reason why I got last 24h 71mhs
if you were not there for 24hr, of course your 24hr average rate is lower that what you see on powhash.
Man I just love you you are n1 you are same like my father.
And well I have small hashrate then I decite to switch to the pool you said ethermine.org everytime when I reach 1eth I will recive it auto. Thats sounds good.
http://eth.nanopool.org/account/0xd34da389374caad1a048fbdc4569aae33fd5a375
I dont know if he pay for cloud mining or just he have 1000 cards?
How is that possible ?
The miner with 14GH/s is using eth-proxy, and the pool doesn't show shares from eth-proxy (clearly stated on the site)... holy, some people.
Here some shots:
Firs column is by calculator, the second is based on the last 24/h payment results
Big miners:
https://i1.someimage.com/f5MGhUm.png
https://i1.someimage.com/cOGfWSc.png
https://i1.someimage.com/guBEzDD.png
https://i1.someimage.com/BpyHaUR.png
https://i1.someimage.com/gLJStKo.png
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https://i1.someimage.com/6T6SHKj.png
https://i1.someimage.com/2V0bf7l.png
As you can see some are a little under some a little over but basically close to the calculator.
Small miners:
https://i1.someimage.com/KZPrssz.png
https://i1.someimage.com/J8Qp8Jv.png
https://i1.someimage.com/dny1d8b.png
https://i1.someimage.com/AvwXtmh.png
https://i1.someimage.com/yAW2K7y.png
https://i1.someimage.com/2HVuqbB.png
https://i1.someimage.com/u9XzviV.png
https://i1.someimage.com/W5YYp8D.png
https://i1.someimage.com/iZrrNKT.png
Completely the same picture!
So mister "bright mind" how this happen? Where is the stolen from the big miners?\
For the very very very last time - there is no difference. There is a really small %(1-2-3%) of better proffit for the small miners in ethermine and bigger miners in ethpool but its SMALL - pennies!
If you cant understand the logic of both pools better dont make false statements, you are misleading the newbies!