Please post your Vega Performance links and any info you have about real life performance mining or alike.
People should start receiving the cards today or tomorrow and It would be good to start a thread capturing people experiences
Thanks
Boysie
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In contrast the Tesla P100 gets 270MH/s in a 4x configuration meaning each does close to 70MH/s. It uses HBM2 as well.
My theory is that AMD's memory controllers are just not that good compared to Nvidia. It has always been the case. Intel and Nvidia's chipset memory controllers were neck-and-neck, and AMD was noticeably behind.
For 1000 usd dollars you buy 4x rX 580(250 rrp) which gives you an average of 120 mHs.
Not worth the investment, wait patiently for aMd stock on rx 580, they will be releasing enough in order to compete with Nvidia, in case they want to retain in market share. Which ethereum mining as been working well for them.
My mSi rx 480 4 GB and 8GB hashes at 28 and 30 stable, considering I invested $260 each they are well better then Vega Frontier edition at 33 mHs - (50 mHs lets suppose) priced at $1000, even though if modded, not worth the investment of $1000 per card!!! iMo.
Again, this is a work station grade card not a gaming mining card.
Being aimed at a workstation and costing $10,000 doesn't prevent Tesla P100 from vastly outperforming any existing solutions.
The problem is likely much more deep down. Like architectural. The gaming cards will also cost far less, but even at 40MH/s its better to buy RX series cards or even GTX 1060s.
aMd is turning tables around and disrupting areas, where they have great speeds on their cPus at the moment and beating iNtel and Nvidia, acquiring market share from this two.
In there, I put a tumbs up for AMD.
Its nothing to do with architecture, this cards are great but not for mining @DavidC1. They are for game development environments, Ai environments, 4k studio editing etc... and they excel in there.
Again this is a workstation grade, and for that reason not suitable for mining iMo.
So right off the bat you can expect a 50Mhs OOB for eth.
lets hope he is feeling rich and got him self one or knows why its failing, maybe its due to recognising it as a gfx900
with no tweaking its using 250-270w @ 33MH but it gets hot and in a hot room its gets really hot and is throttling back and settling down at 25MH although it uses less power its doing less
It has the same issue the rx 480 had with the card controlling the fan where by it would prefer to thermal throttle back to go slower than ramp up the fan, I guess this is a more quite option but it impacts the perf by quite a lot
You can get round it by setting the min fan speed at 80% and max at 100% and up the power to 20% but then its using 350w but is stable at 33Mh 1600/945
I'll play more and hope @claymore can fix the issue with his software, both zcash and eth/dual and night
Boysie
Now the fun starts.
Overclocking mem and undervolting core/mem
Thanks for sharing as usual, @boysie.
With shitty drivers and no optimized miner, i can see 41.32Mhs max, is a great result.
Maybe these cards have a potential to go far beyond 60Mhs.
I read somewhere the max memory oc can be upto 1800 MHz. So far people have managed to do very small overclocks on memory. How far did you go?
The slider indeed does go way up but my speedo in my car says 200MPH doesn't mean it will ever be able to. Still I'm hoping for better driver support in the coming weeks as clearly its a pile of £hiT right now. But expected given their previous releases on day 1/week1
60 seems a little high and would need more than driver support for that, bios mod and a driver that allows it. the RX vega I'm not expecting any more off just to be a bit cheaper because it wont have the Pro mode which I haven't really tested yet coz I think cant mod the clocks/power will have to check though.
Boysie
Will consume a shitload though..
That being said, the Vega FE is an accurate representation of what we can expect for RX cards. AMD has several drivers for FE owners to choose from depending on their tasks (i.e.- gaming, workstation, compute, etc).
The real question is how well it can perform after optimizations. I saw someone got 40 Mh/s, but I have no idea what exactly they did to "optimize".
In th eUK the rx580 are now running around £350 plus and you are right 28Mh which is what you are actually likely to get does stack up if you got 2 or 3 of them and power wise it is comparable but its all a bit of fun right.
The card is as you say this expensive because of the workstation mode not the gaming mode, I expect the RX vega to retail at $699 or £699 and at launch that will quickly rise to £800 with high demand and possibly even more. I don't see why they will perform any better other than they have had longer to get the gaming driver tuned up which the FE will use anyway when in gaming mode. plus we are going to no doubt mod that bios if we can at any point to gain perf like you have to with any rx version.
Its all good fun and the war of nv and amd continues...
What they aim is, Ai and studios graphics rendering.
The Rx vega will be slightly better, but even with this minining cards that every manufacturer is releasing to feed demand, is a joke iMo. Better margins for them, less connectors and old chipsets, and taking advantage of mining claiming dedicated cards for the purpose. They are cheap to manufacture.
I will still be waiting for stock on Rx 580, and that's my aim. VEGA is a nonsense card for gaming and mining, both, price and poor mining.
Workstation cards never work well in that sense.
Ps: it's fun overclocking but on 1000 usd cards for mining, I don't touch them iMo, Roi is too low.
Unless they hash at the same rate of 4x cheap cards and same power to save me the amount of pcie connected and heat spreaded around the box. I'd rather increase the life of the Gpu in the long term by having 4 well tunned, instead of maxing 1 out.
Thanks, for taking the time to try it out @boysie
And I think the Rx vega will need to be cheaper than 699.